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if there is no successor now for the flame what will be my best choice to buy =O2 Flame -- Nokia N95-4--htc x7501--i must have slingplayer-internet sharing.
able to play streamradio stations from around the world  =difrent formats of audio and long batery life on bluetooth headset ad the same time using the internet for radio..

the experia X1 is the one I was commenting on above --- Sony is skimping big time with  just 3" screen, 256 ROM, and 128 RAM??????? A step backward, if you ask me! HSDPA and HSUPA (the 3.6 MB down and upload speeds) are only useful if you are made of money (so that you can get an unlimited plan) and won't work in most countries yet, anyway. The experia is not bad, but can't hold a candle to our flame.

i saw in some site on preorder the experia X1  for $900+usd a bit to much??? compare to htc x7501 $819.00usd <--big brik 5inch screen 8gb drive. better yet the htc x7501 has all the fetures one wish for the flame II exept the 5 inch screen??

Flame 2 has been cancelled. 800x400 sounds great, but 1.haven't heard of any software supporting it 2.You would need a 4" screen for that resolution to make sense, not a 3". And $900? Can almost get 2 flames for that! The 7501 has great specs, the question is: how big is too big? For me the answer is that it must be small enough to fit in my jeans' front pocket. The 7501 definitely doesn't fit that bill, but may be ok for some. Some advice though, the 7501 does not have vibration mode and the 8GB is a hard disk, not flash ROM. When you are using a device this big, you are almost into UMPS territory. Nokia and Apple give 16GB and 32GB flash ROM, why are the Windows Mobile device manufacturers stuck at 256MB???? It really sucks!

devictoria wrote:

The screen is too small.

I agree.

As soon is there is no 3.5 inch pda/phones left to buy......I will get out of buying WM devices completely,and revert to a $50 mobile phone for basic phone function.

For me,I am only interested in Flame,XDA II size devices with 3.5' or bigger screens and not the ones that open up like a notebook or have silly keyboards that are still too small to type with.

It has me baffled why 2.7 or 2.8" screened devices like the Atom,are soo popular,sure they're smaller,but they're not that much smaller,and if you are going to carry
around a brick,you might as well have a screen that you can actually interact with.

I like the iPhone physical design and capacity,but not whats installed on it or the fact you have to type with your fingers,plus its not open source.

I very much hope the Flame is not my last such toy.

A different page appears at that link now. Try http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/01/2 … -launched/

HP took an opportunity at CTIA to announce the world's thinnest Windows Mobile device. Using a 4.1" VGA OLED display and a lithium-polymer battery, HP has packed a Windows Mobile Classic device into a credit card-sized package.

http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=po … mp;id=5233

http://www.pocketnow.com/html/portal/ne … d_iPAQ.jpg

This is the real XDA Flame successor! Meet HTC Advantage X7510...



The ultimate mobile office: refined and up-rated. More power, more control, more performance.

Building on the success of its iconic predecessor, the second-generation HTC Advantage™ X7510 takes laptop performance in a pocket-size form-factor to new heights of power and usability.

Featuring a massive 16GB of internal flash memory, coupled with finger gesture recognition and an improved tactile keyboard for intensive text-input… the Advantage X7510 makes playing media, working with Microsoft Office® documents, sending and receiving emails and web browsing an altogether more empowering experience.

Slide the Advantage X7510's keyboard away to reveal the large 5” VGA touch screen incorporating the finger-friendly HTC Home™ application menu. Snap the detachable magnetic keyboard in place to enjoy flat surface use and reap the full benefits of Windows Mobile® 6 wherever you may be.

Lightweight and attractive, the HTC Advantage X7510 is perfect for on-the-move people who need to stay in the loop… and all without compromising on power or functionality.

Processor
Marvell® PXA270 624 MHz with ATi™ Graphic Chip W2284

Operating System
Windows Mobile® 6 Professional

Memory
ROM: 256MB
RAM: 128MB SDRAM
Flash: 16GB

Dimension
133.5 mm (L) X 98 mm (W) X 16 mm (T)
Thickness with keyboard: 20 mm

Weight
375g (with battery)

Display
5-inch TFT-LCD with backlight LEDs, touch-sensitive screen

Network
HSDPA/WCDMA: 2100 MHz for Europe and 850/1900 MHz for USA, with up to 384 kbps upload and 1.8 Mbps download speeds
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz (The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network.)

Cellular Phone
Cellular Networks:     GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
Cellular Data Link:     CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
Call Alert:     40 -chord melody

Keyboard
Dual usage QWERTY keyboard for text input and display protection

Connectivity
Bluetooth® 2.0
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB 2.0 and audio jack in one)
HTC proprietary 16-pin combined port (USB 1.1 host/VGA and TV Out)
3.5mm stereo audio jack with microphone

Camera
Main camera: 3.1 megapixel color camera with auto focus and flash light
Second camera: VGA CMOS color camera

Audio
Built-in microphone and dual speakers
Ring tone supported formats:
- MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, WAV, and AMR-NB/WB
- 40 polyphonic and Standard MIDI format 0 and 1 (SMF)/SP MIDI

Battery
Rechargeable Lithium-ion polymer battery
Capacity: 2100 mAh
Standby time: Up to 300 hours for GSM/WCDMA
Talk time (Screen off):
 Up to 5 hours for WCDMA
 Up to 6 hours for GSM
Video call: Up to 2 hours
(The above are subject to network and phone usage.)

Expansion Slot
miniSD™ (Hot swap and SD 2.0 compatible)

Read more at: http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=436 or http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1118.

Can use bluetooth headset to cover it

great specs --- but how can we call that giant monster a phone?? Will you strap it to your belly?  And I have read that it will cost about 1500 USD, more than a laptop! Give me those specs on a phone with a flame size screen! Besides, in standard HTC fashion they still give you the same old processor? HTC has banned innovation from its line up. I think the sweet spot between device size and screen size for the current technology (until the rollable color screens arrive) is 4". HTC had one planned, the Omni, but apparently canceled it. 4" will still fit in a jeans front pocket. That's the gold standard for maximum size for me. Face it, we are stuck with the flame, since nobody cares about us. So it is good we are improving the flame here.

the just announced HTC Diamond seems cool, 4GB of memory,  192 RAM. VGA screen (only 2.8 unfortunately). Great interface. Not quite there yet, but at least they are finally moving in the right direction. Obviously a reaction to iPhone 2.

Frankie1 wrote:

Add VGA to this and you have winner: http://www.theunwired.net/?item=unveile … bile-phone

and this one has nothing but a big screen... no usb2, no vga out, 64mo ram, same pxa270 cpu, minisd slot....
when will we see a real advanced device again ?, m

lastnikita wrote:

yep, it's still missing a bigger screen, a microsd slot and a vga-out, but it looks fine (seems it finally comes with video drivers !)

No microSD slot? Lol, have to read the specs more carefully. Battery is very weak, too. Well, I will not use it to replace the Flame, anyway. But at least HTC has brought out something that seems like a step forward in design. We love the big screens, but the general public doesn't unfortunately. Anything over 3" doesn't sell well. Too bad for us, but they have to make money, too.